Documents, inspections, search details and costs 2026-09-18 September 18 conversation · original 10:32–16:41. A separate, continuous excerpt; omitted gaps are not joined. The transcript uses the original recording clock. ~ marks estimated timing. Unidentified voices remain unattributed. ~10:36–10:37 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream So... ~10:37–10:41 · Kyle Moring I saw your filing. And, I've got the complete set right here. ~10:41–10:42 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Mhmm. ~10:42–10:44 · Kyle Moring But, I mean, I don't know. ~10:44–10:48 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream So, this may be that we're like ships passing in the night here. ~10:48–10:54 · Kyle Moring Mm-hmm. ~10:54–10:58 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Like...umm...you might be just trying to talk about stuff as opposed to offering evidence. ~10:58–10:59 · Kyle Moring Mhmm. ~10:59–11:03 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream And so, um, ~11:03–11:06 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream the rules of evidence are about the submission of evidence, right? ~11:06–11:07 · Kyle Moring Right. ~11:06–11:11 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream So, that's where we get... challenges, right? ~11:11–11:12 · Kyle Moring Mhmm. ~11:11–11:17 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream And so, and like, as I, as we talked about last Friday, ~11:17–11:22 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream documents have to be complete and all of those different things, because otherwise it appears that they're, I mean, who knows, right? ~11:22–11:23 · Kyle Moring Right. ~11:23–11:33 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream They could be taken out of context or, and if you're on some sort of appeal or something like that, um, the court of appeals would not have any reference, ~11:33–11:34 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream right? ~11:33–11:34 · Kyle Moring Mhmm. ~11:33–11:37 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream For that kind of thing. And so, So I'm not trying to be...um... ~11:37–11:39 · Kyle Moring No, I get it. I mean, it's your job to do that. ~11:39–11:41 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Yeah, exactly. It's my job. ~11:41–11:42 · Kyle Moring I totally get it. ~11:42–11:44 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Exactly. ~11:44–11:49 · Kyle Moring Yeah, I'd have the complete threads in there, but honestly, I don't know. I'm really just tired of this. ~11:49–12:04 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Well, we are too. But, I mean, Mr. ~12:04–12:05 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Moring... Like really like if we're talking, if you think we haven't given you something, I mean I understand you have some like, I think this should have turned up ~12:04–12:13 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream or that should have turned up. And you know, I don't know what to say about that other than we did the searches, we produced the documents that we had. And I mean, ~12:13–12:21 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream I know you're very, very precise and very focused. on certain things and um but we want to bring this to an end right? ~12:21–12:22 · Kyle Moring Right. ~12:22–12:23 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream when this is costing the city a lot of money. ~12:23–12:31 · Kyle Moring No I'm yeah I understand that and I know that like for example the the correspondence that you guys produced with you guys ~12:31–12:35 · Kyle Moring part of that request was like the invoices you know for the billing it ~12:35–12:37 · Kyle Moring wasn't produced. ~12:37–12:41 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Well you have to understand that it's only what's available when you make that request ~12:41–12:42 · Kyle Moring Mhm. ~12:41–12:46 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream so it may not have been in there right like it may have not been there at the time that you made the request. ~12:46–12:48 · Kyle Moring Okay. ~12:48–12:51 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream It's one of those, like, you know, it's a snapshot right in time. ~12:51–12:52 · Kyle Moring Right. ~12:51–12:58 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream You know that. And so I don't know. I mean, but, again, happy to, but, you know, we'll, there's also privileged communication in there. ~12:58–13:01 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream I'm assuming that you would agree to us redacting... ~13:01–13:02 · Kyle Moring Right, right, right. ~13:02–13:03 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Privileged communications umm... ~13:03–13:12 · Kyle Moring And then, like, the other thing was, like, with the... It's the main thing pretty much, the Walmart related stuff. ~13:12–13:18 · Kyle Moring The permits and inspections, Like HS Cloud, even the contract says, they've got the ability ~13:18–13:24 · Kyle Moring to do the electronic export. And some of the pages they print out weren't even saved when they... ~13:24–13:29 · Kyle Moring printed them out, you could tell the bubbles, you know, you put the entries in, ~13:29–13:30 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Mhmm. ~13:29–13:34 · Kyle Moring like the violations and stuff, they were still open. And it's like, ~13:34–13:35 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream I mean... ~13:34–13:35 · Kyle Moring and I know you don't understand. Like ~13:35–13:36 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream I can't speak to whether ~13:36–13:37 · Kyle Moring Right ~13:36–13:39 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream or not there's a better way to do it. I know that you know ~13:39–13:40 · Kyle Moring Yeah ~13:39–13:46 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream the history of that better than I do, but that we didn't have the ability to print it, period, and then we're trying to figure out how to ~13:46–13:47 · Kyle Moring Right. ~13:47–13:51 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream try, and I guess we've given you some of that stuff that you feel like it's not sufficient. ~13:51–13:52 · Kyle Moring Pretty much, yeah. ~13:52–13:53 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Okay. ~13:52–13:53 · Kyle Moring Yeah. ~13:53–14:00 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream But, I mean, if we have some focused things, again, we're not refusing to um provide those ~14:00–14:14 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream to you. It's just uh but we need to be focused, right? Like, in fairness to you, you're a very intelligent person. I have no doubt about that. ~14:14–14:18 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream But sometimes when you're putting these things in the AI kind of filter, ~14:18–14:20 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream it just comes out as like... ~14:20–14:21 · Kyle Moring Well, ~14:20–14:21 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream It's just too much. ~14:21–14:25 · Kyle Moring yeah, that and I like to overthink everything. And I know that I have a problem with that, too. ~14:25–14:26 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream I do that, too. ~14:26–14:30 · Kyle Moring I mean, things are way more complex than they need to be because I'm trying to cover all my bases, but... ~14:30–14:36 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Well, we're not... I mean, honestly, we're really like... That's not, that's not in the City's best interest. it's not in your best interest. ~14:36–14:43 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream We're not, if it's something you requested, if the documents existed, of course, the snapshot, right, and the time frame ~14:43–14:44 · Kyle Moring Mhmm. ~14:43–14:54 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream and all that, we're not, you know, if you think that this is missing or that's missing or there's some data missing, we're not refusing to provide ~14:54–14:56 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream that to you, but we just need to be focused on what that is. ~14:56–15:02 · Kyle Moring Would they just produce, you know, what the summary of the screenshot was, you know, the… ~15:02–15:03 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream On that Walmart? ~15:03–15:04 · Kyle Moring …on the KeyQL? ~15:04–15:05 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream I can find out. ~15:05–15:10 · Kyle Moring I mean, if they do that, like where I can see what was searched, just the summary of the KeyQL ~15:10–15:11 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Yeah. ~15:11–15:14 · Kyle Moring I mean, that's fine. I mean I'm just tired of this. ~15:14–15:15 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream I'm sure it's stressful for you. ~15:15–15:19 · Kyle Moring Because I've got a lot more things you guys don't even realize going on ~15:19–15:20 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Yeah. ~15:19–15:21 · Kyle Moring with other agencies. And it's like, ~15:21–15:22 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Yeah ~15:21–15:27 · Kyle Moring and I'm representing myself. And it's been going on for a year and a half and I'm just tired. Like ~15:27–15:35 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream Well, and it's, I think, let me just say that. ~15:35–15:41 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream And let me just say that the umm ~15:41–15:42 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream the big picture is important, right? ~15:42–15:43 · Kyle Moring Mhmm. ~15:42–15:48 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream And we can get super focused on whether or not um you know ~15:48–15:50 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream we gave it to you with a paper clip or not. ~15:50–15:51 · Kyle Moring Right. ~15:50–15:51 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream You know what I mean? ~15:50–15:53 · Kyle Moring Right right. ~15:53–16:00 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream And and that just doesn't I don't know if that's really meaningful and I appreciate that you are very ~16:00–16:10 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream sensitive to the details. And so, but, you know, that's not what we're here to do. You've been lots of places. We've, I mean, the City, the City is really ~16:10–16:15 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream spending an extraordinary amount of money responding to these things. This is our third trip. ~16:15–16:16 · Kyle Moring Yeah. I know. ~16:16–16:26 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream To a court hearing. And so, um You know, it's the taxpayers that are paying that money. ~16:26–16:27 · Kyle Moring Right. ~16:26–16:27 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream You know, ~16:27–16:28 · Kyle Moring So... ~16:27–16:29 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream I'm even giving discounts upon discounts. ~16:29–16:30 · Kyle Moring So... ~16:30–16:35 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream But I can't, I mean, at some point, like, you know, if I'm not spending my time here, I'm working for other people. ~16:35–16:41 · Kyle Moring Right, right. And San Antonio is a good drive or even if you fly It's, you know, a decent amount of money I used to live down there.