Telephone query discussion, rerun, possible cost and scope
2026-09-18

September 18 conversation · original 30:28–36:18. A separate, continuous excerpt; omitted gaps are not joined.

The transcript uses the original recording clock. ~ marks estimated timing. Unidentified voices remain unattributed.

~30:28–30:43 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Okay, I'm gonna...I'm gonna Let me go see if I'm going to let him explain to y'all what it is that he's looking for.

~30:43–30:49 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Okay, Kyle, so we have, I have Seth and Candias on the phone here.

~30:49–31:00 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
And like I'm, and of course here's the Mayor.

~31:00–31:01 · Kyle Moring
Okay.

~31:00–31:01 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
So this is that Walmart search, right? But you've seen that.

~31:00–31:05 · Kyle Moring
Right. I'm, I'm And it also had the "AND", like I pointed out why it's an issue to have the "AND" in the participants. Because they should be looking for both things,

~31:05–31:09 · Kyle Moring
but the actual KeyQL search with just,

~31:09–31:20 · Kyle Moring
you know, even if it's just headers of the emails, the email addresses, or it shows kind of like what he's doing for the um district attorney record request.

~31:20–31:22 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Seth, can you hear that?

~31:22–31:31 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
Yes, yes. Okay, so just so I am getting this correct, Kyle so you want me to remove the "AND", uh, the "AND" condition there, to "OR"?

~31:31–31:35 · Kyle Moring
Yeah, I think that's the way that it would, it would pick up,

~31:35–31:37 · Kyle Moring
you know, what I had requested

~31:37–31:38 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
if it's with "OR".

~31:38–31:40 · Mayor Wesley Lyon
Is it SQL?

~31:40–31:41 · Kyle Moring
Mm-hmm.

~31:40–31:43 · Mayor Wesley Lyon
Uh, it's "AND", and "OR".

~31:43–31:44 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Uh-huh.

~31:43–31:45 · Mayor Wesley Lyon
It's actually both of them.

~31:45–31:52 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Okay, Okay so you want us to run this search again with it?

~31:52–31:55 · Kyle Moring
Yeah, just those same parameters. And I just you know just see what.

~31:55–31:56 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
But "AND/OR".

~31:56–31:57 · Kyle Moring
Mhmm.

~31:56–31:59 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Okay, can we do that guys?

~31:59–32:06 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
Sure, yeah. Definitely. So let me just go back to that same uh search

~32:06–32:07 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Those same keywords?

~32:07–32:08 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
and I'll just adjust those parameters

~32:08–32:11 · Kyle Moring
Yeah, I think the search is fine. It's more just the participants.

~32:11–32:12 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
"AND/OR",

~32:11–32:12 · Kyle Moring
Mhmm.

~32:12–32:20 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Yeah. Okay. And then what you get, and then that produces X documents,

~32:20–32:21 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
right?

~32:20–32:23 · Kyle Moring
Mm-hmm.

~32:23–32:29 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
So...

~32:29–32:30 · City Secretary Candias Webster
And then we have to go through those again?

~32:30–32:37 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Well so, would it, I would think that's what we'd have to do, but I guess what we did before was "AND"? or we did "OR"? Seth, do you know?

~32:37–32:41 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
Yeah, so yeah, it did "AND" umm and I...

~32:41–32:42 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Oh who is this...

~32:42–32:51 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
I'm trying to think. So technically because it's looking for keywords with the word Walmart as well as participants

~32:51–32:55 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
of Walmart, so yeah, that would just produce,

~32:55–33:03 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
yeah, I can just change at the "AND/OR" or it will probably generate um a lot more emails and it would technically be a separate export.

~33:03–33:07 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
But um yeah, I can just go back to that original case and change that. That's not a hard thing to do.

~33:07–33:08 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
So,

~33:08–33:16 · City Secretary Candias Webster
I have a screenshot here where we actually did do it with "OR" and it produced the same amount.

~33:16–33:18 · City Secretary Candias Webster
Like I can send it to you.

~33:18–33:20 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
Oh, that's when I did the KeyQL.

~33:20–33:27 · City Secretary Candias Webster
Yeah, and we did a screen, a screenshot where it pretty much produced the exact same stuff.

~33:27–33:28 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
So, okay just let me

~33:28–33:31 · Kyle Moring
But it's like he said, the "AND/OR", the participants. You're right, yeah.

~33:31–33:35 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
But why wouldn't, why wouldn't "OR" give you more?

~33:35–33:36 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Like, if it's...

~33:35–33:39 · Mayor Wesley Lyon
If you don't use the "AND", that's what I did,

~33:39–33:43 · Mayor Wesley Lyon
like, the last 20 years. The "AND/OR" was actually using both of those parameters,

~33:43–33:44 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Uh-huh

~33:43–33:47 · Mayor Wesley Lyon
so it'll pull more than just one or the other.

~33:47–33:48 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
okay

~33:47–33:50 · Mayor Wesley Lyon
does that make sense it's weird

~33:50–33:52 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Not to me it seems like if it has one it should pull it

~33:52–33:53 · Kyle Moring
It. Yeah

~33:53–33:54 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
yeah when it has both

~33:54–33:55 · Mayor Wesley Lyon
yeah it's a sequel thing

~33:55–33:56 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
Mhmm.

~33:55–34:05 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
okay alright so um okay and then we'll have to look through those and that's gonna take time

~34:05–34:06 · Kyle Moring
that's fine

~34:06–34:10 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
All right, so, so, Seth, can you write for me in words?

~34:10–34:13 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
Mhmm.

~34:13–34:18 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Because I want to put this on the record before the judge, are you do you agree to that?

~34:18–34:27 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
That what the parties have agreed is basically to run this search again with "AND/OR" right?

~34:27–34:36 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
and once the city has reviewed those records and provided those in accordance with the normal, I mean, there might be a cost involved in that if it's additional.

~34:36–34:38 · Kyle Moring
Okay

~34:38–34:43 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Then we'll, and that's it. We're done with this.

~34:43–34:44 · Kyle Moring
Mhmm.

~34:43–34:47 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Right? We're done with the the lawsuit, and um,

~34:47–34:55 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
and it will be dismissed. Right? okay alright and I don't want we don't want to come back here

~34:55–34:59 · Kyle Moring
no I don't either

~34:59–35:05 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
Sounds good okay so yeah I can I can certainly I'll change that over and I can write up an email and send it over to you

~35:05–35:07 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
thank you very much

~35:07–35:11 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
and send it to Candias yeah I will get this export started right now

~35:11–35:20 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
thank you I appreciate it so much and thank you Candias and I think you're Candias you're on you don't need to come down I think right now

~35:20–35:21 · City Secretary Candias Webster
Yes ma'am

~35:20–35:21 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
All right, thank you.

~35:21–35:22 · Kyle Moring
Thank you.

~35:22–35:23 · City Secretary Candias Webster
You're welcome.

~35:23–35:24 · Seth Bryan, Bryan IT
Thank you guys.

~35:24–35:26 · Overlapping speakers
[Words unclear.]

~35:26–35:32 · Mayor Wesley Lyon
So they're running that in, for the mail database?

~35:32–35:36 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Uh yeah, that's right, that's what they're I mean, whatever it was he requested before in terms of the database.

~35:36–35:37 · Mayor Wesley Lyon
So more like the emails?

~35:37–35:41 · Kyle Moring
So yeah, it said email, but I'm not even going to push my luck on the rest of it.

~35:41–35:46 · Kyle Moring
I mean, it was supposed to be all the platforms, but it's... but I'm not going to do that. It's...

~35:46–35:53 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Email, that's what you're looking for. okay all right

~35:53–36:02 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
all right well see this is this is what conferring does for us, we can...all right

~36:02–36:03 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
let me um

~36:03–36:07 · Mayor Wesley Lyon
So who's running that query is that gonna be Seth or Austin?

~36:07–36:08 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
Yeah Seth is

~36:08–36:10 · Mayor Wesley Lyon
Seth is?

~36:10–36:18 · City Attorney Lea Ann Ream
yeah okay let me go and um communicate with the court just so we can get one thing off her docket if she's um....