Beck asks for a list to take to City staff and IT, describes counsel’s technical limitations and says available records can be produced. Kyle agrees to make the requests more succinct.
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~28:07 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
Well, those, Kyle, those, (unclear) what we want to do, is be able to go back to the City one more time and say, here's a list of things that will resolve this case, right?
~28:24 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
And if we have it, we're more than happy to, you know, give it to you. If the answer that we get back, though, is we can't do that, I don't know where we go from there um
~28:39 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
I mean, nothing that you're asking for,
~28:42 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
to me, raises any red flag of, oh, it's going to be, you know, confidential or anything like that. It's all, um if it exists, we can do it. But if it requires the City to go, you know, hire someone to go run a,
~29:00 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
you know, dig deep into the programming of some software, like we're probably not going to ask them to do that. If it's something that they can click a button on a program and run a report, that's fine.
~29:12 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
But we need, what we need from you is a list. That's what we're doing on our end is compiling a list we can take back to Candias and to the IT folks and say, here's...
~29:25 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
the things that if we get an answer to these, we can resolve this case, right? This is an exhaustive list of things. And then we can be able to know whether it's something we can produce,
~29:39 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
in which case we'll do it or not, and we can give you that response. But it's just a lot to sift through. And like Lea was saying, we're trying – our goal is to not generate a bunch of billing for the city.
~29:53 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
We, we you know, our goal is to, you know, simplify this and resolve it, especially in a case like this where we aren't really opposed. It's not like you're asking for something and the City saying no,
~30:07 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
under no circumstances will we give it right. We're, we're we want to wrap this up. So the things Lea mentioned, if you can, work on those and a similar level of succinctness would really help us out.
~30:22 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
So you can put it in, I want, you know, this report or whatever from this particular software. That's something we can turn around and explain to the City. But we are not technical like
~30:37 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
You have a level of expertise in this stuff that we're not going to match, right? And that's fine. but we're trying to translate what you're giving us into an actionable item for the city staff to tell us, yes,
~30:52 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
we can do this or we have this or not. Right? So that's our goal right now. And,
~30:59 · Lea Ream, City Attorney
Yeah I mean,
~30:59 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
I think the judge is going to, be upset with both of us, right? If we can't come back after all this time with some progress, some of this stuff is answerable, right? We either have it or we don't.
~31:11 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
We can give it to you or we can't. And we need to, you know, start knocking some of those those things out. But your role in that would be just as as simply and plainly as you can to try and... you know,
~31:27 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
describe what the document type or the date range or whatever, like, you know, that something we can turn around and say, go search for this and get an answer back on, right? Does that make sense?
~31:40 · Kyle Moring
Yeah, I can do that.
~31:42 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
Okay. And these are good examples that y'all walked through as I was listening here. So those are all things, you know, there were three or four things here where...
~31:51 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
And it was you explained it in a way that was short, succinct, and was immediately something I could be able to convey to the IT to Bryan IT or to Candias or whatever without needing... as much, you know,
~32:08 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
technical background.
~32:10 · Kyle Moring
Yeah I have a that's my fault. I have a problem doing that. But I can definitely make it more succinct. In just like layman's terms you know
~32:18 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
That would be helpful for us because we will go ASAP and go
~32:25 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
try and get a response one way or the other on each, you know, whatever it is.
~32:30 · Austin Beck, DTRG Asst. Attorney
But...
~32:31 · Kyle Moring
Okay, I can do that.